Methods and apparatus are provided for detection and decoding in flash memories with selective binary and non-binary decoding. Data from a flash memory device is processed by obtaining one or more read values for a plurality of bits from one or more pages of the flash memory device; converting; the one or more read values for the plurality of bits to a non-binary log likelihood ratio based on a probability that a given data pattern was written to the plurality of bits when a particular pattern was read from the plurality of bits; and jointly decoding the plurality of bits using the non-binary log likelihood ratio, wherein the pages are encoded independently.