Certain aspects of the present disclosure relate to methods and apparatus for extending range and delay spread in 2.4 and 5 GHz bands, and potentially frequency multiplexing users. An apparatus is provided for wireless communications. The apparatus generally includes a processing system configured to generate a packet comprising a first preamble decodable by a first type of device and a second type of device, a second preamble that is decodable by the second type of device, but not the first type of device, and data and a transmitter configured to transmit the packet, wherein the first preamble is transmitted using a first channel bandwidth and the second preamble and data are transmitted using only a portion of the first channel bandwidth.